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	<title>Comments on: On the Death of Rav Elyashiv</title>
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		<title>By: Yitzchak Sprung</title>
		<link>http://benabuya.com/2012/08/01/on-the-death-of-rav-elyashiv/#comment-9255</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yitzchak Sprung]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2012 11:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[very interesting. i also don&#039;t understand why you say he had no peers. for more on his legacy, look here:http://thinkjudaism.wordpress.com/2012/07/18/when-a-hareidi-king-dies-do-the-modern-orthodox-weep/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very interesting. i also don&#8217;t understand why you say he had no peers. for more on his legacy, look here:<a href="http://thinkjudaism.wordpress.com/2012/07/18/when-a-hareidi-king-dies-do-the-modern-orthodox-weep/" rel="nofollow">http://thinkjudaism.wordpress.com/2012/07/18/when-a-hareidi-king-dies-do-the-modern-orthodox-weep/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Annelise</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 01:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s astonishing... I can&#039;t imagine such an amazing memory! It definitely deserves admiration.

I just wonder how we can separate the halacha from those relationships with others, compassion, good fathering and marriage, kindness, justice, and humility. If someone neglects these things, how can they be in touch with the letter or the spirit or the core Jewish texts?

I don&#039;t know much about Rav Elyashiv, so I can&#039;t speak for him. Nor about the Haredi movement; I wouldn&#039;t be surprised to see in some quarters those stringencies without precedent, unjust discrimination and small awareness of other people and societies, or deep attachment to details of practice from previous generations that meant little to those who went before or to the agreement of the Torah. The opposite problem also exists, here and elsewhere, where parts of the covenant law are diluted for convenience and wide acceptability. But as long as Judaism really is Judaism, its communities remain in an ongoing conversation that reaches beyond themselves.

Saying that such paper-thin (though intricate and brilliant) rabbinic scholarship, with no reference to kindness, justice, and the value of humanity, is the characterising feature of Haredi law would be in certain ways an insult. Do you think? Either from us against their community, or from them against the thoroughly important values of the wider Judaism that their individual lives and culture have aimed to hold. How can you have perfection in the halacha if you can&#039;t even come near to the basics underlying the discipline?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s astonishing&#8230; I can&#8217;t imagine such an amazing memory! It definitely deserves admiration.</p>
<p>I just wonder how we can separate the halacha from those relationships with others, compassion, good fathering and marriage, kindness, justice, and humility. If someone neglects these things, how can they be in touch with the letter or the spirit or the core Jewish texts?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know much about Rav Elyashiv, so I can&#8217;t speak for him. Nor about the Haredi movement; I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised to see in some quarters those stringencies without precedent, unjust discrimination and small awareness of other people and societies, or deep attachment to details of practice from previous generations that meant little to those who went before or to the agreement of the Torah. The opposite problem also exists, here and elsewhere, where parts of the covenant law are diluted for convenience and wide acceptability. But as long as Judaism really is Judaism, its communities remain in an ongoing conversation that reaches beyond themselves.</p>
<p>Saying that such paper-thin (though intricate and brilliant) rabbinic scholarship, with no reference to kindness, justice, and the value of humanity, is the characterising feature of Haredi law would be in certain ways an insult. Do you think? Either from us against their community, or from them against the thoroughly important values of the wider Judaism that their individual lives and culture have aimed to hold. How can you have perfection in the halacha if you can&#8217;t even come near to the basics underlying the discipline?</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Holloway</title>
		<link>http://benabuya.com/2012/08/01/on-the-death-of-rav-elyashiv/#comment-9247</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simon Holloway]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 01:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That may be true, as it is likewise true that the only people who referred to him as the &quot;posek hador&quot; were Lithuanian Haredim. I have heard things about Rav Chaim Kanievsky that have truly astonished me, and I am a very great admirer of Rav Ovadia Yosef. I do not think that there is anybody today who truly walks in the footsteps of the Brisker Rov: somebody with the breadth of knowledge that Rav Elyashiv had - or that Rav Ovadia has - but who is also &lt;i&gt;&#039;oqer harim&lt;/i&gt;. I like to think that, like the Chazon Ish, we simply do not know yet who they are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That may be true, as it is likewise true that the only people who referred to him as the &#8220;posek hador&#8221; were Lithuanian Haredim. I have heard things about Rav Chaim Kanievsky that have truly astonished me, and I am a very great admirer of Rav Ovadia Yosef. I do not think that there is anybody today who truly walks in the footsteps of the Brisker Rov: somebody with the breadth of knowledge that Rav Elyashiv had &#8211; or that Rav Ovadia has &#8211; but who is also <i>&#8216;oqer harim</i>. I like to think that, like the Chazon Ish, we simply do not know yet who they are.</p>
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		<title>By: yitayningwut</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 19:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have the utmost respect for R. Elyashiv - as I do for other great Torah scholars. However, I think the statement that he was unparalleled and had no peer is a tad overboard. I am confident that there are Torah scholars around today who are his peer, even if they aren&#039;t very many; notwithstanding the fact that he was considered by many to be the &quot;posek hador.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the utmost respect for R. Elyashiv &#8211; as I do for other great Torah scholars. However, I think the statement that he was unparalleled and had no peer is a tad overboard. I am confident that there are Torah scholars around today who are his peer, even if they aren&#8217;t very many; notwithstanding the fact that he was considered by many to be the &#8220;posek hador.&#8221;</p>
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